Electronic Cigarettes to be Banned?
N.B. I am not Davy
The sale of any nicotine containing products (NCPs) may be banned in the UK from June, except for those certain products that contain tobacco of course. The sale of electronic cigarettes for medicinal purposes is already prohibited, but the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is moving to classify nicotine as a medicine itself in a twisted effort to ban electronic cigarettes completely. In the USA, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has already banned their sale pending further research.
Although I am not a smoker myself, this recent attempt at product regulation by the bureaucratic bansturbators of this country affects me personally. You see, my mother is a heavy smoker. Now in her fifties, she has been smoking since she was fourteen and she practically chain smokes all day, every day.
Being interested in new technologies, she had read about the invention of electronic cigarettes in China several years ago. This was enough to pique her curiosity, but it was still a while before they found their way into the global market. For those who are unaware, the electronic cigarette is a device that simulates a real cigarette very effectively. Inside the device, a small lithium-ion battery is used to vaporise a liquid nicotine juice so that it can be inhaled. Some devices are activated on suction, but most are operated with a small button on the side that is held down just before inhaling. Crucially, there is no tobacco or tar in the product and the smoke itself is actually not smoke at all but is mostly just harmless water vapour.
About a year ago, an accident in the family meant that my mum had to spend extended periods of time in the hospital where she was obviously not able to smoke. Purely by coincidence, it was inside the NHS hospital itself that she saw an advert for the sale of electronic cigarettes in the UK. It was being heavily marketed as a way to legally smoke indoors due to the recent ban on smoking in public places.
My mum had already tried all of the government licensed alternatives to smoking, such as nicotine patches and nicotine gum. These are even available over the counter, but needless to say they don’t work very well. From her own accounts they don’t even help to alleviate the craving, let alone help to kick the physical habit of holding a cigarette between your fingers, inhaling the smoke and feeling it hit the back of your throat. The gum apparently tastes absolutely disgusting too.
It is important to note, however, that my mum had no intention or desire to give up smoking. She bought an electro-fag mainly out of curiosity, but also as a potential means to alleviate her craving for a cigarette in those areas where she is not allowed to smoke. Imagine her own surprise then at having barely even touched a real cigarette since. In-fact, the only time she has smoked a real cigarette since buying an electo-fag was on the run up to last Christmas when the postal strike occurred and she did not receive her replacement nicotine liquid. At that time she also mentioned to me how horrible the things tasted to her now, compared to the flavoured nicotine juices you can buy.
My mum still doesn’t think of herself as a non-smoker though. After all, she has gone from chain smoking real fags to chain smoking electro-fags. But now the government is going to force her to switch back to chain smoking real fags after having not even touched them for over a year. This is all supposedly for her own benefit, of course; she can’t make that decision for herself. They will argue she can still use nicotine patches, but she doesn’t even want to quit smoking in the first place! That was not the reason she bought an electro-fag!
Electronic cigarettes have been picked up by a few UK libertarian bloggers, like Leg-iron. As it happens, Leg-iron started using them because of my mum, who left an anonymous comment on his blog. Leg-iron, however, still smokes real fags in addition to smoking electro-fags; the one merely complimenting the other for use in different circumstances. And unlike with my mum, this seems to be the rule rather than the exception.
So these devices are not being principally used by those wishing to give up smoking. They are mainly being sold as a reaction to the government ban on smoking in public places. The real reason the government is moving to ban electro-fags is because they are being used to openly flout their bullshit act of bansturbation in the first place. The government doesn’t like that one bit; they are all about instilling obedience and controlling people.
Of course, the bureaucrats in charge don’t think of this in terms of an outright ban but instead as a public safety measure. Only until the manufacturers of such products jump through their hoops, spend millions of pounds and undertake years of excruciating research will they be licensed as safe for general consumption. Because you see, you don’t own your own body; the government does. You can’t decide to take that risk for yourself, so you’ll have to go back to smoking. Again, it’s all about having control.
Of course, it’s effectively a ban because no company can afford to jump through these arbitrary hoops right now. Watch John Stossel: Stay Out of my Meds! for more examples of how these types of insane policies affect millions of people negatively. The individuals in question are the only people who can decide what risks they’re willing to take.
That’s why I sympathise with these small companies in the UK who are selling electronic cigarettes and nicotine juice. The government is effectively forcing them out of business. But when they make retarded statements like this, you really have to wonder what side they are on. The side of freedom or the side of authoritarianism? How about we all just put down the fucking gun for a change, instead of arguing amongst ourselves over who it should be pointed at? Because the reality is that the gun is pointed at all of us.
— Jack Whitehead






March 11th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
It is pretty depressing that everything we do is monitored and controlled by the powers that be and sad that we so easily turn against each other.
In this case the plan seems to be part of a global nicotine grab for pharm companies sponsored by them and carried out by ‘health’ campaigners. They are to be the only ones allowed to profit and supply eventually but first the commercial markets have to be closed and nicotine gradually removed from tobacco products. Lots of countries have already closed commercial markets and it looks like more are going down the same route.
http://vapersnetwork.org/node/7
As some of my US friends like to say – ‘follow the money’.
March 12th, 2010 at 3:22 am
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March 12th, 2010 at 6:13 am
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March 12th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Great Post Jack, interesting for me as I’d never heard of these e-cigs.
If this is cheaper than regular smoking too, it wouldn’t surprise me if the cigarette industry lobbied for this ban.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
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March 20th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
In response to Jack Whiteheads post I felt that I had to leave a few lines. I have been using a e cig (titan 501) for around 2 months now And its probably the closest thing to a real cig your ever going to get. I have tried all the other things available without success, and when I finaly find something that works for me I find out the government are about to take it away from me as if I am a child who cannot decide for myself whats right for me. what really hacks me off is that im so proud of my achievement with the help of the e cig , I am down from 40 cigarettes a day to around 5 a week which i use as a reward to myself for doing so well, and fully intend to switch completely. I am now finding myself stock piling,buying as much vaping juice as I can afford before the ban comes in. I cant see it stopping the sale of the e-cig itself batteries atomisers etc as the juice can be bought nicotine free or can be home-made using vegetable glycerine and flavouring its just the liquid nicotine they could stop us using. I, (like Jacks mother) dont want to stop i just want a safer way to get my fix, and this is definately a much safer way. What I find the most annoying about this, is that when a relatively poison free way of inhaling nicotine is banned a dangerous and toxin filled way will still be legal, I have signed several on-line pettitions and altough I don`t expect it to make much difference I hope millions of people sign them and let the powers that be know that we are aware of their plans.
March 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Excellent posting! I know that my performance at work has definitely improved since using Electronic Cigarettes. All the time that is lost because of having to run out for a cig are all gone. I am very thankful that Electronic Cigarettes were invented.
April 20th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
interesting
April 22nd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I was given an e-cigarette as an early Christmas present on 5th December ’09 and haven’t touched a tobacco version since. I’ve been a smoker for over 44 years and can’t recall the last time I felt as well as I do now. I much prefer the e-cigarette to the ‘real thing’ and am now cough-free have far more energy, sleep better and live in a house that no longer smells like a pub the morning after the night before. This article hits the nail fairly and squarely on the head – to date I’ve heard of no one being harmed by the use of liquid nicotine in an e-cigarette – it is not a medicine, it cures nothing. I am not sick – I need no medication. I do not use the e-cigarette as a cessation product, I use it as a relaxation product that delivers nicotine. In its raw form nicotine is, of course, a poison but in the form of e-liquid it is greatly diluted with food grade dilutants and as long as it is used responsibly, is harmless. I’m still waiting to hear otherwise.
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
I used to be a very heavy smoker (between 40 & 60 a day) tried everything else to either give up or just cut down but with no success. Then coming up to 2 years ago I bought my first e-cig, since then I’ve wanted to tell the world about them. There really is smoke (vape) without fire!
Within the first few weeks of using the e-cig my health improved drastically & no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever as I am still getting all the pleasure from vaping without all the nasty ingredients in real cigarettes.
May 9th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Having smoked 20-40 a day sincethe 1990′s, I am delighted to announce that I have not smoked a regular cigarette since April 22nd 2010 thanks to my electronic cigarette.
I prefer
-it’s cleanliness(I now smell fresh, and can smell if I am in the company of a cigarette smoker-not pleasant)
-the financial savings-my starter kit has paid for itself, and I have saved enough to buy a new Anglomania belt already!!
-Yesterday I walked to the sorting office in the other side of town, without having to pause on numerous occasions to catch my breath.
I am overjoyed with my new smoke free lifestyle.
Being a cancer sufferer, already, I have attempted several times to quit smoking, and failed-which has an extremely deteramental effect on one’s self-esteem.
Speaking as an economist, I fully appreciate the massive financial implications that the e-ciggarete will have on the smoking cessation industry industry. I also appreciate the massive guaranteed revenue in taxes on cigarettes which would vanish overnight.
Here are two thoughts to ponder…
1. Would the state really want to lose it’s income generated by tobacco taxes?
2. Would the massive pharmacuticals want to see a more effective and successful rival product instantly delete their market share.
The UK ban is proposed as the product is “untested” rather than “unsafe”
Since it is in neither the interest of HMRC, nor pharmaceutical to conduct clinical trials on this for of nicotine delivery, I have been conducting my own clinical trial since April 22nd.
This trial consisted of one subject-a 41 year old male who had smoked 20-40 cigarettes every day since 1990.
Subject has not smoked, nor had the urge to smoke, a regular cigarette during study period.
Symptoms of tobacco withdrawal have included
Massively improved cardiovascular function.
Significantly reduced anxiety-subject was able to reduce benzodiazapines in relation to overcoming insomnia, and anxiety.
Subject has maintained hand-to-mouth habit, and exhilation of vapour-which was his first attraction to the to smoking.
Mood-the subject’s mood has lifted significantly.
100% success rate
I’m so impressed, I’ve joined the company!!
John Mairs
http://www.ciggyboo.com
May 12th, 2010 at 4:20 am
Great post! Personally, I use both normal cigarettes and e-cigarettes depending on circumstance. But I think its quite obvious that the only reason why this ban is happening is because the government aren’t making any money as they aren’t taxed like normal cigarettes. From what I’ve read and understand, they’ll probably end up providing licenses or taxing the products to sell them much more freely…but much more expensively!!
Another example of how little our freedom means to these people!
MZM.
May 28th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
I have smoked cigaretses on and off (mainly on) sine 1989. I have tried to give up on numerous occasions withour success.
I first tried the e-cig in January 2010; it was not a top brand but I could see that it would work for me.
Sine then I researched e-cigs and purchased the Mega Titan 510 at the end of Febraury and have been analogue cigarette free ever since (3 months)
I now vape using the screwdrier mk11 which I have found brilliant. This can be purchased from totally wicked uk and if you use the following code 9e903 you will recieve 7.5% discount on all orders.
May 30th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Thanks for all the great comments and testimonials. It makes me even more sad that it will soon be banned in the UK. Best of luck to you all!
May 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Would love to know of a single reason as to why e cigarettes should be banned ahead of tobacco filled ones. (not included are the astronomical taxation gains our government makes or the following increase in life expectancy again at a cost to the government) perhaps the government for once should be honest( I laughed as well when I read it back) and say ” you know what? We can’t afford this lost revenue from cigarette taxes, e cigarettes are getting a taxation hammering” ………problem solved?
http://Www.scdecig.co.uk supply the only uk manufacturered ecig until sales become illegal.
June 11th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Where is the petition ?
June 21st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Seems like the governments of certain countries are just as bogeyed as their neighbours as i have cut off my smoking habit to a Luci and a GreenSmoke, find they are excellent and don’t even have all that coughing anymore. If this is banned i expect to return to smoking as my wife will tempt me back. Wonder if you can sue the governments for killing you slowly because they force you to do something that they want you to stop doing. Its all to do with money and greed.
July 22nd, 2010 at 4:40 pm
The MHRA and the FDA seem to be conjoined twins.It took 50 years to get the tobacco cigarette manufacturers to admit that smoking caused several different types of cancer and other major health problems.
Now we have a 21st century product, which can empty 40% of hospital beds,currently filled by tobacco smokers, plus tens of thousands less deaths each year.
Why can tobacco lobbyists and government tax revenues run rough-shod over civil rights? Every single person in the UK, should voice a “NO” to the MHRA, which is a government dept.
August 5th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Im sick and tired of being told what to do by these nazi bastards, speed ramps, the country blanketed with scameras, screwing us all the time, penalising us for having a car, 25 years ago they wanted you to own at least 2, and then they change there fucking minds,thousands upon thousands of stupid rules, and now the e cig, ye ive got one and totaly quit the real things, we should be allowed to make our own minds up about our health, whatever they’re doing cant be any worse for you than a real fag, do me a favour you sad busy body no life fucks, leave us smokers alone.
September 21st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Smokers have it hard enough, there needs to be a fine line between where a person can and cannot smoke, It doesnt matter to some who love the statist control grid they set up.
June 9th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
the government are cocksuckers. probably heavily involved in the beastiality scene as well.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
The electronic cigarette is not a quit smoking method, it is just the best way to replace your normal cigarette with a vapor cigarette, which is safer and can be smoked everywhere without any problems.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:05 am
This ban is complete bull shit. It is clear that the Government does not want to give a second chance to already addicted smokers. They are shouting out to stop smoking but at the same time – they are imposing bans on electronic cigarettes – which clearly show us that they are backing up the Tobacco Industry. What safety are they looking at from electronic cigarette if not buying time and allowing traditional tobacco to impose itself once more.
The electronic cigarette has only been possible due to the invention of micro electronic which would not have been possible some years back. We all agree that cigarette is bad and there are strong scientific evidence to prove that and also all the death caused up to now as proof, so why not act today and reduce the overall damage.
Even if all kind of assumption are being made on electronic cigarettes today – no one has any proof of what they are saying since most Great Advisors are non smokers themselves. I recently met someone who is a High Executive Officer in a Ministry and who has reached there, due to his age seniority.
He even sat in the committee who have evaluated the electronic cigarette and also voted – NO. When I met him – He ask me the following question:
- Ok, now tell me what is an electronic cigarette ;
- Please show me how it looks like :
- How is there smoke coming out – where does it come from!!!
These are the king of people evaluating the electronic cigarette. If the Government was keen to improve the lives of its population, it would have gone deep into the matter, carry out therapy group over a certain quantity of volunteers, evaluate their health over a certain period, bring up a high caliber a competitor on the market to face the tobacco industry and at the same time offer a viable alternative the people.
I totally agree that there must be proper regulation around the e-cig but not a BAN because we cannot allow anything and at any cost. This will only happen if everyone put hand in hand and look forward to a better world without caring for his personal interest because the tobacco industry is very powerful and can accompany the deciders by giving them plenty of incentive whereas the e-cig are only small companies which are striving to help people out of this nightmares !!!
June 21st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Looks like the ban has been slipped in quietly…I was in HMP UK at the weekend and tried to buy an e-cig (the e-cigs here in Spain are crappy unreliable Chinese rubbish). Boots the Chemist told me were now banned.
Nothing in the MSM about it.
Surely they haven’t D Noticed the ban?
December 14th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
All I know an ex smoker for 29 years, i have not touched a normal cig in a month. No withdrawal symptoms, cravings at all.
An Ecig is not meant as a smoking cessation aid but in my case it worked as one. I am no longer a smoker and feel better for it. I vape zero nicotine which is basically flavoured water which is heated up and produces a vapour. I am not endangering anybody’s health including my own.
The thing that gets me is if normal cigs as in tobacco burning products where introduced today, they would never be legalised, yet they try to ban the ecig! its one thing why they want to ban ecigs and thats money! it has been proved over 75% of smokers cut out completely normal cigarettes when using ecigs!
These ignorant people know nothing about ecigs, they confuse them with smoking; its not smoking.If they really do care about tobacco induced illnesses and deaths; ban normal cigs not ecigs!
December 21st, 2011 at 2:37 am
I’ve been vaping for 3 years now. Still no ban. The only thing that is bullshit is your article. Nearly 2 years later and still no ban… Do your research and stop with your Roswell style government hating crap. If the government payed any notice AT ALL to e-cigs they’d do their own research and tax them. The “ban” in the USA was 1 week because they wanted to see if they were importing drugs. The ATF declared that the product was perfectly legal and nothing has been said sine. Get off your band wagon/ high horse and pay attention to the real world, rather than your paranoid “the government is brainwashing us” world and five people credit. We know when we are being fucked over, we don’t need a conspiracy nut to tell us as if he’s the only one rant knows the truth.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I am happy there was no ban Mickforth. I hope the same for the future. But it’s hardly a ‘conspiracy theory’. If conspiracy theorists hate the government too, it doesn’t mean that all government hating is just being a conspiracy nut. We oppose government regulation and licensing in favour of a voluntary market, that’s all.
March 23rd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Millions have been damaged and many millions are still being damaged by tobacco smoking. How many ecig users have been damaged? None to my knowlwdge and as an ex tobacco user, 40 a day for 56 years, I’m an advocate for ecigs.Think of the billions that will be saved in medical costs.It’s a ‘no brainer!’ Governments take note.