Legal high “MCAT” to be classified as Class B
Oh, for Christ’s sake, please, go suck a fuck, all of you:
Mephedrone is to be made a class B drug after a Wales on Sunday story sparked a Welsh MP into action.
It will put the narcotic – known on the street as meow meow, MCAT or meph – on a par with amphetamines.
For all the reasons listed here, this is absolute bullshit.
It’s also clear that the champion of this legislation, Shadow Welsh Minister David Jones, has absolutely no idea where drug problems come from. He doesn’t understand how prohibition:
a) increases the costs of the drug, encouraging adicts to resort to crime to pay for their habit
b) increases the impurities in the drug, as dealers no longer compete on quality but rather on willingness to flaunt the law
c) increases the desire to become a drug dealer as the rewards (higher profits) become much more alluring
d) increases gang violence, as disputes are forced to be handled in the black market
But David Jones didn’t cite any of that, instead his wise contribution reads as follows:
“The problem with it, of course, is the fact that it is not illegal.”
Genius! You are a brilliant man, sir.
David Jones needs to start advocating the immediate banning of Cigarettes, Alcohol, Rock Climbing, Driving, Fatty foods & Swimming or he needs to kindly shut the fuck up. What an absolute horrible piece of work.
[Update: Mr. Civil Libertarian also has some (better articulated) thoughts]
[Update: Forum thread started in response to a comment below]





March 14th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
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March 14th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I hope they wait till after pay-day!
March 14th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Haha, me too. In the article they say “It can be picked up for for just £5 for half a gram. CHEAPER THAN ALCOHOL” like it’s a terrible thing.
If Heroin and Cocaine was £5 to get high then there would probably be zero property crime associated with such things, but logic like that escapes these people, the people who want to IMPOSE minimum pricing on legal drugs like alcohol lol
March 14th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Yep, it’s always worried me that otherwise sensible groups like Transform want to, inadvertently, perpetuate problems they want to fix. Ah well.
Also, see this poll from Talk To Frank.
http://www.talktofrank.com/drugs.aspx?id=3597
Frank really doesn’t know Jack.
March 14th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Haha, I like how the article cited the guy who allegedly ripped his scrotum off. This turned out to be an unfounded internet rumour, so it’s good to know Wales Online uses reliable sources of information. Also good to know that any causes of the poor lad’s suicide other than a relatively safe widely-used drug have been effectively ruled out.
The stupidity of some people amaze me.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
If mcat remains legal, many people will take it thinking it is ‘alirght’ when it blatently isnt. I do not understand why people are sticking up for a drug which is much like many class A’s and has been linked to a number of deaths. you think it wont kill you, or your best mate, but then bam it does. what then? you will change your views… but its abit late then isnt it.
yes im am a ‘hater’ of this site and yes this comment might be deleted, but i am hoping that at least one person will have read this comment and thought for just a second about the other side of the arguement. mcat is taking hold of the younger generation and I, at 16, have witnessed it turn many of my close friends to become subconsciously addicted to it, and another one even having a servere seasure and near cardiac arrest.
no one knows the long term effects of this drug, cancer? birth defects? you wont be laughing then will you
March 17th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Actually martha people are very happy to discuss things like this calmly and rationally with “haters” and non haters alike. I’m going to post his comment in the forums, so more people can give you feedback, and if you’re interested you can come and respond if you like. Thanks!
Here’s the forum thread.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:35 am
Martha,
Have you tried posting when not high yourself? You might find your spelling, grammar and general coherence are all improved immeasurably when not higher than a mooncalf.
March 23rd, 2010 at 4:15 am
i took this quite alot until the othr weekend when my mate got so paranoid he thought we wer planning to stab him and set him up.. when we were actually not doing anything at all it has now put it into perspective how bad it is and im glad to stop b4 my use gets out of hand ! hope this helps anyone who takes it and help them to stop like me !
March 26th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
And why should anyone give a fuck what a druggie wanker like you thinks?
March 27th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Barry: your views sound interesting and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Is there a website where I can enter my email address?
April 1st, 2010 at 8:49 pm
ahhhhh uz lot bang plant fertilizer up your beaks and think its cool ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaah hhahahahahah bunch o freakssssss
April 2nd, 2010 at 4:35 am
Daaaaaavvvviiid taaaaitttt ahhhhhh NO, THOUGHT NOT!
April 8th, 2010 at 11:11 am
why should m-cat be class b CANNABIS is class b and cannabis doesnt kill people m-cat should b class A or cannabis going back down 2 a class c
April 8th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
They should all be Class L for “legal”
If you’re looking for logic from the government in terms of classification, don’t bother. You have noticed that Alcohol & Cigarettes aren’t even illegal at all, right?
April 13th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
this mcat topic is silly. alot like the people who cant use it properly,if you smoke too much- drink too much or take too much of anything, in the end its going to damage you in some way true? people who die from mcat are getting excited because they aint thinking,its a drug-its new so be carefull DONT GO MAD!if everyone had this sense of mind there would be more chance of it staying legal but the usual happens and they fuck it up for everybody!! i aint had any trouble from it. try putting it in your drink again not too much a sprinkle does,top up when you need 2 of course, WITH A NEW DRINK REMEMBER! without exitment and greed then everything would be fine to all the stupid people out there who aint got a clue how to use it THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!
April 13th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Yeah exactly. It’s absolute bullshit. One person behaves irresponsibly or gets unlucky and everybody must be punished.
I heard people have died rock climbing because they didn’t tie their knot properly–LET’S BAN IT FOR EVERYONE!
I heard people have died from peanut allergy–BAN ALL NUTS FOR EVERYBODY!
I heard people have died from swimming in dangerous water–BAN ALL SWIMMING PERIOD!
I heard people have died from downing two bottles of vodka–BAN ALL ALCOHOL!
I heard people have died from dangerous driving–BAN CARS… ALL OF THEM… BAN THEM NOW… JUST FUCKING BAN THEM!!!!!!
May 1st, 2010 at 2:32 pm
A bit of advice as there seems to be sweet fuck all available on the internet.
My friend had mkhat for the first time last night, she had 2 very, very small lines and was fine until about 2 hours later when she hit a bit of a downer, im not sure if it was down to the alcohol (we’d drank a fair bit in a short space of time) or the drug, but got in half an hour later and was fine.
All i’m sayin is that basically, if you’re about to try it, exercise with extreme caution, have a little bit, wait 30-60 mins, even longer maybe, then have a little bit more. If you start to feel negative, hot-headed, dizzy, then slow down. Get some fresh air and plenty of water. No need to ruin your night.
June 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
All i’m sayin is that basically, if you’re about to try it, exercise with extreme caution, have a little bit, wait 30-60 mins, even longer maybe, then have a little bit more. If you start to feel negative, hot-headed, dizzy, then slow down. Get some fresh air and plenty of water. No need to ruin your night.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I asked a very close friend whether this was good advice and they had this to say:
“MCAT can be awesome, but if you take too much too fast you can start chatting some serious shit and gurning your face off, which can lead to painful mouth ulcers and shit the next day. Start with small amounts, spaced several hours apart. When you’re more used to the drug you can take more. Also: have plenty of chewing gum with you. Don’t expect to get to sleep very easily for quite a few hours after you stop taking it. Come down isn’t too bad compared to many other intoxicants.”
July 15th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
My friend took MCAT on Saturday night and was found DEAD sunday morning… All those in favour of this stupid drug need to grow up and meet with the 21st Century. Drugs are illegal for a reason and MCAT is as bad as Ket or MDMA. Why risk your life for a night out? Get a grip and stop acting like children. I don’t see how the last night of your life could be described as “Awesome”…
Swimming Pools and Rock Climbing can be dangerous yes. Those incidents are normally either people been irresponsible or accidents. So tell me how does one “accidentally” take a drug? EXACTLY! Its been IRRESPONSIBLE!!
July 17th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Here are a few good pot documentaries to help get you in the know..
Try:
The Union
Super High Me
Should I Smoke Dope (free BBC UK special available on youtube)
In Pot We Trust
July 20th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Samantha: Thousands of people die each year from alcohol… tens of thousands of people die from smoking? Should we ban them?
The climbing analogy is fine. People climb because it’s fun, however with that fun are dangers. Your anecdote is sad (I don’t know what else she took with the MCAT or what the MCAT was cut with or who she purchased it from) but even if it’s true it doesn’t mean MCAT should be illegal. Your friend should NOT HAVE TAKEN IT if she didn’t want to take that risk. I hate to burst your bubble but there are literally MILLIONS of people who have taken it, had an amazing time and NOT DIED.
In life you can’t guarantee safety. You make your own decisions and then live with them.
MCAT is now illegal and people still take it, only now it’s more expensive and likely to be cut with other, more dangerous drugs. Nothing has been “solved”.
September 1st, 2010 at 10:28 am
My partner takes drugs and on friday he took mcat while leaving me at home with the baby and not coming home??? I hate drugs and hate him taking them now we have a baby boy and a home to pay for.
All he says is that he doesnt care it is fine and he will take it no matter what i have told him that we have a sona nd he should grow up but his answer to it is that drinking is the same and he wont stop taking it. So may be i will have to explain one day to my son that his dad is dead due to drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Sounds like you have an irresponsible partner and father, and I certainly feel bad for your situation.
MCAT is currently illegal so the government’s regulation’s didn’t prevent this situation.
On the other hand it has turned many people I know who do not have kids and who use the drug responsibly to become classed as criminals. It’s also made the drug more dangerous and more expensive.
How has making it illegal helped anybody here?
October 26th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
iam a farther of two lads both addicted to cat this drug as torn the family apart both had good jobs now ones in prison the orther dont what to know anybody i hope anybody thinging of taking this drug thinks twice it soon gets a grip on you
October 30th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Do you take any responsibility for your son’s actions yourself? Because I know many, many people who have used it and I know of nobody who has lost their job because it’s taken over their life.
As for prison: that’ll be the ban. Unless you’re arguing mcat made him commit some other crime, which I don’t believe, because it generally makes people happy. Far more so than alcohol, which is legal.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
lol, if any of these annoying politicians that ban drugs ever fucking tried mkat.. they’d have a different perspective altogether, so to anyone that’s never tried mkat before, and never experienced how amazing it is, and harmless, sit down and shut the fuck up.