In Sweden slavery is the law
I hear much talk about how Sweden proves that a “mixed economy” is the best system and how massive swathes of socialisation can improve standards of living. Well Jack just linked me to this story which appears to show that home-schooling is cause enough for the state to flat out kidnap a person’s offspring, no questions asked.
Let’s not mince words here, if I’ve read the details correct, that makes Sweden a Slave nation. Where the state owns every new born child, not the parents.
People can quibble statistics left and right all they want, but in my mind slave states need to be called out for what they are.
Let’s not forget this is the same country that is trying to get the UK to extradite Julian Assange of Wikileaks, almost certainly with the eventual intent of handing him over to US authorities for the “crime” of effective journalism.
It’s also the country where having sex with a woman without a condom is apparently the same as rape.
Sweden: The fascist state.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Having sex with a woman isn’t rape. Forcing her to have sex without a condom is rape. And forcing her to continue is she changes her mind in the middle is rape. Sweden has some of the most enlightened rape laws, they are just being twisted for political ends at the moment with the Assange case (I’m guessing you already knew that).
And taking children away from bad parents is a good thing. It’s not uncommon, it happens in every forward thinking country. In this particular case, what Sweden is doing is ensuring a basic level of education for all children. If you home school, then you have to meet certain government standards for the level of that education. Unlike vast parts of America, where “home schooling” effectively means being allowed to fill your child’s head with whatever crap you feel is important, but which presumably isn’t.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Here’s some more details on this:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/2010/06/swedens-state-sponsored-kidnapping-of-7.html
December 13th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
What’s a condom got to do with Rape? It’s either rape or it isn’t.
I was “home schooled” and I guarantee I didn’t get your government’s “standards” because my parents didn’t follow any standards whatsoever. Probably why I have such crazy heretic beliefs about government. If only I’d been told the “right” way to think I’d probably be a good little citizen, going around blogs defending good honourable things like child kidnapping.
I guess in your mind I should have been taken away from my parents. The state cares about my happiness and future prospects more than my parents who love me, yeah? It’s probably because of how “enlightened” they are.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Mark, you are a sick and morally twisted person.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Sweden is probably one of the most fucked up nations I’ve ever come across.
With so much rape allegations flying around, I don’t want to be there. Practicing my heterosexuality would be a danger to me!
As for good old Dave, thank God he’s sane. It does make my eye twitch… when… when…I try… to think… that the state owns every kid…huh??? That’s not right.
That’s f*cking what Mao ZeDong did in China by slapping a serial number on each of the kids’ chests!
December 14th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
@Mark – “And taking children away from bad parents is a good thing. It’s not uncommon, it happens in every forward thinking country.”
It should be extremely uncommon. It should be an extremely rare thing to do. It should not be because the parents aren’t teaching their kids exactly what the state determines they should be taught in exactly the way the state determines. It should only be because of abuse.
“In this particular case, what Sweden is doing is ensuring a basic level of education for all children. If you home school, then you have to meet certain government standards for the level of that education. Unlike vast parts of America, where “home schooling” effectively means being allowed to fill your child’s head with whatever crap you feel is important, but which presumably isn’t.”
Basic education is easy to satisfy. Can they read and write and do maths. Filling the child’s head with crap happens just as much if not more in state education than in home schooling. The current generation of teachers are mostly left wing and are made to teach the issues Labour wants taught which are set out in the national curriculum.
Home schooling is never going to be a problem. So you get a few kids who are taught differently from the rest of the population. Is it going to bring the whole education sytem to it’s knees? No. Will these odd kids cause untold damage to society that will bring the whole country to a standstill? No. In fact it’s state educated kids who are currently bringing the country to a standstill because they have been taught to expect education right up to the age of 25 to be a human right. Society always needs odd balls – all the greatest minds (scientists, artists, poets, etc) were odd in some way or other other.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
I’m swedish and I work at a private school and never heard of anyone in sweden had their child kidnapped by the state before because of home schooling. My sister work at a city child protection unit and when I asked her about this she said there must be more to this than just the home schooling thing. Taking children away from their parents is allmost exclusevly done when parents are unable to care for their children because of drugs/alcohol.
@Anon “Sweden is probably one of the most fucked up nations I’ve ever come across.
With so much rape allegations flying around, I don’t want to be there. Practicing my heterosexuality would be a danger to me!”
Calm down a bit here ;) Assange isn’t convicted yet and there is no chance he will be if the stuff I read about this case is true, evidence is clear the sex was censensual. It is true that radical feminists in the country are unhappy that “too few” men are convicted for rape and are lobbying hard. They want a conviction if word are against word, the accusing woman is allways right or something to that effect.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
@Patrick I live in Sweden as well.
Hej jag är svensk.
Just to get things straight do you work for a private school (funding is done volountarily/privately and ownership is technically private?) or a “private school” (funding is done publicly via the tax and ownership is technically private?)
I bet you 10:1 that you work in a “free school” (friskola, which btw isn’t free since it still has to follow the states curriculum) or a “private school” NOT a true private school.
Mark is a dangerous aggressing fascist, are you too? You are probably too (you support compulsory school attending).
I’m just going to mention here that the last time homeschooling was outlawed was in 1939.
In Germany.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Guess on who’s order?
“The Youth of today is ever the people of tomorrow. For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of innoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still unperverted and therefore unspoiled. This Reich stands, and it is building itself up for the future, upon its youth. And this new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”
Hitler
edit: Goodwins law confirmed once again…. fml :(
November 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Patrick I insist you read through
http://dominicjohansson.blogspot.com/
(sorry to every non-swedish, there is some swedish there).
Sure it’s probably biased. HOWEVER for you to think that the state can’t or won’t take a child for not attending school you are naive. While I have not enough proof that the Swedish state does this to be 100% certain, the fact of the matter is that the German state has and do.
States are states, some are less evil than others, but there is no good government.
There is actually a Swedish family that moved to Åland where homeschooling is permitted. And there’s another one that has applied for political asylum in the states (and granted mind you) for this stated reason. Cognitive dissonance much? You should. Even to me it was a BIG surprise the fact that someone has actually, for once, been a political fugitive FROM Sweden instead of TO it. It boogles the mind.
Yet it’s truth.
November 12th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Also I invite you to go to http://www.freedomfest.nu/video-och-bilder-fraan-festen to watch Jonas Himmelstrand – Hemskolning i Sverige + Madeleine Wallin – Valfrihet för familjer from LvMI Sverige on Vimeo.
If you think this gets me emotional hence the spamming, you’re right,. Emotional, however, does not always mean not being logical or rational.
June 15th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Yes; typical of our current society that the people that are blogging about there politically crap agenda are the same ones that have everything handed to them on a silver platter and have NO idea – yes, NONE about the real world. In fact their perpetuating of bullshit is a mirror of how shocking our ‘education’ systems are (education, what a laugh!) What would be a moor precise definition in our time?……mmm…maybe dumping SHIT into an empty vessel. I’ve never been to Sweden and never intend to because I’m sure (being as Sweden is most likely way over regulated) that it’s a fucking fascist state that is run by oliarchik (like that word morph, cool ha) cunts who couldn’t give a shit about anything except their bank balance.
Fuck the police!! Save Julian from daft fucks that can’t think for themselves.
August 29th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Most people agree that rape isn’t about sex, it is about power. While Swedish feminazis are lobbying for rape laws that convict anyone with an erection, the courts are allowing Swedish women to alienate their husbands from their children, then economically rape them. Yes, that’s right. Even if a father has shared custody of a child in Sweden, if a mother can convince the child to live with her at age 12, the legal system turns a blind eye. Then when the mother demands child support, the legal system enthusiastically helps her economically rape the child’s father. Doubt it? Just read a few chapters in the Swedish family law book. Fathers in Sweden have little or no rights to their children or protection under the law from ex-wife initiated harassment.